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SB2 and Town Meeting
By Laura Knoy on Thursday, March 1, 2007.
The traditional town meeting in New Hampshire may slowly be on its way out as more and more towns adopt SB2, a form of local government that has been around since 1996 and allows residents to vote on town and school district warrants at the polls instead of in town and school district meetings. Sixty of New Hampshire's 221 towns have adopted SB2 and only a handful have reverted back. We'll look at town meeting, its place in New England and what the future may hold as it competes with the new guy in town- Senate Bill 2. Laura's guests are Harriet Cady, a Deerfield resident who was instrumental in helping her town to adopt SB2 and Wes Moore, a selectman from Newfields, a town with SB2. He prefers town meeting and is hoping to get Newfields to rescind SB2. We'll also hear from Ted Leach, Co-Chair of the Carbon Coalition , which is pushing to get global warming initiatives onto many ballots and into town meetings across New Hampshire this March.
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Since my property taxes have skyrocketed this year I've become a more involved citizen. I've been attending selectman meetings and budget committee meetings, and Hopkinton-Contoocook Taxpayer Assn meetings. I see SB2 as a win-win situation for all the taxpayers. Town Meeting and the School meeting can run on for hours and by the final vote, they've lost half the audience. It's not fair to the seniors, those with children, or those who just can't sit there on the bleachers hour after hour. I'd like to see the Town & School Meeting or the "Deliberative Sessions" as they will be called televised and available through our cable TV. Then the vote will take place 30 days thereafter; giving all of us a sufficient amount of time to study all the articles and make good decisions in the privacy of the ballot booth. It will also give those who cannot get to the polls the ability to have an absentee ballot and vote on every issue. Thank you, Joan Flood
I have long said if you did not vote, you have no right to complain about the person in office or the policies of the town/county/state/country. Participate or be quite.
I believe the supporters of SB2 could just as easy 'stuff' the ballot boxes, with well intentioned neighbors etc.. as the opposition could 'fill' the town meeting, so what is accomplished? I find the whole idea of SB2 to be specious at best, and ill informed at worst.
Currently every resident has the option of attending the Budget committee final meeting to voice opinions, which is the equivalent of the deliberative session, very few do, usually people with 'skin in the game' and the fringe groups. So how does SB2 help? It just makes it so I can spend 5 minutes punching a ballot instead of attending a 4-8 hr town meeting, or at a deliberative session to become informed and hear other point of views, before considering casting my vote. Would the supporters of SB2 allow a law/rule saying unless you attend the deliberative session you can't cast a ballot? I think not, if they did I would be in support of this measure.
In short, I find that SB2 just allows people to ease their conscious about 'participating' in town govt without the real expense of time to get the various 'versions' of information regarding the articles up for vote.
Would the supporters of SB2 allow a law/rule saying unless you attend the deliberative session you can't cast a ballot? I think not, if they did I would be in support of this measure.
Fortunately for the rest of us, poll tests have been outlawed for quite some time.
How I long for the Utopia where everybody can get to town meeting and participate in the process. That nobody had sick kids, a job where they can't get the day off, or a business they can't close for the day.
Being that we don't live in that world, the choice is between running the risk of uninformed voters or very real disenfranchisement of citizens, ones who are often the least able to pay for spending approved at Town Meeting. In a world with no perfect choices, this one is easy.
I can vote for candidates to state and federal office, regardless of how informed others think I am on the issues, and despite the fact that I have never attended political rallies or watched all the debates. But I can't vote on local issues because I don't attend the deliberative session and therefore am not informed enough to vote? This is subjective and exclusionary and stinks of old-boy-network town politics. I am troubled that a selectman from my own town wants to bring back the oligarchy by promoting the repeal of SB2 under the auspices of restoring democracy.
I find that SB2 is an interesting concept designed to compromise the dilemma of continued falling participation in voting in towns and across the nation. Lack of participation is a conundrum to me because there certainly isn’t a lack of complaints about the government from all parties that make up a community. I have heard some strongly advanced statements by many people who didn’t vote.
It’s interesting that there was a recent Geico commercial where there lizard stated that it wasn’t very likely that someone would deny standing up in order to save money, saying “no thanks, I have enough money alreadyâ€. Isn’t that what we are doing with our vote. People are actually saying, “no thanks, it isn’t worth the effort to get up one day a year and go vote for the policies, budgets, and people that are going to effect my community for the next year.
I understand that people lack the time to fully participate. I understand that it can be difficult to get and maintain the information necessary to make an informed decision. I know that some people feel intimidated, or don’t believe that there vote will matter, or that there vote will even be counted. But, I believe that a citizens vote isn’t a right that comes without responsibility, and that the benefits of being a citizen of the United States carries the responsibility of participation.
I have been focused on how to get people to vote, what privileges we could put in the balance to make it worth their while, as if freedom wasn’t enough.
SB2 seems to provide at least a partial positive solution to the problems facing voters. There is still a problem with who shows up at the deliberative sessions, because how are we to ensure that all of the perspectives are represented. There is discussion, there are points of view deliberated, all still have the right to present viewpoints, and a document to the effect of the outcome of the discussions sis disseminated to the voting public. Are there still issues? Yes. This release has to be unbiased, un-skewed, and must represent all available positions in an unbiased and thorough fashion. And, the information has to be delivered to ALL registered voters.
Our communities are getting larger and more diverse. Our individual concerns and exploits have become more divergent from each of our neighbors. Our minds must confront and deliberate information on a world-wide basis that moves us further from a community perspective. But this is the twenty-first century with all of its communications technology, and it is more a matter of making sure we make the effort to encourage our citizens to participate and give them the resources to do so. After that, those who participate should reap their rewards, and those that don’t participate have other things to be concerned about.
It’s a start, an effort, and god bless those that try.
It is nice to have my suspicions confirmed by others. According to jfhopkinton's response, If increasing taxes on everyone, everywhere is what it will take for them to start taking an interest in local, state, and national government, then it seems like my course of action is set.
I wish that nobody had to suffer for them to take part in a process that will ultimately benefit them, and yet I understand the time constraints that pull at each of us.
And, I don't think that 'encouragement by tax assault' would spur the sustained activism that we desire. In actuality I believe that near full participation would allow for either lower taxes for the services that we want, or a general agreement to increase taxes in order to get the benefits that we as a people believe will aid us in the long run; better schools, more effiecient transportation, improve natural environments, etc.
It was a good show, but there were some incorrect impressions left by your guests, regarding the switch to SB2, and its effect on tax rates.
First, although only 57 towns (out of 200+) and 69 school districts that had town meeting switched to SB2 in the last ten years, those towns were the larger ones. Therefore half of the townspeople in the state that were formerly covered under town meeting, now are in an SB2 town.
Second 31 towns adopted SB2 in the first year, and 14 more adopted SB2 in the next two years. Three towns have rescinded SB2 in the last ten years. The pattern is even more 'front end loaded' for the school districts - 53 out of the 69 that now have SB2 adopted it in the first two years, and no school district has rescinded SB2.
So the comment made that SB2 is showing increasing interest is just not true. One or two towns per year have adopted SB2 in the last few years.
Third, I looked at the equalized 2006 town tax rates for the SB2 and town meeting towns, and there is little difference. In 2006 the SB2 towns have an average tax rate of $17.90, while the town meeting towns have an average tax rate of $16.57.
My guess is that the slightly higher tax rate for SB2 towns is due to the fact that they ARE larger towns, and have to provide more services. The 'no meeting' cities (Manchester, Concord, etc.) have an average tax rate of $21.22 in 2006, seems to back up that assumption.
Sincerely,
Dennis Delay
Deputy Director
New Hampshire Center for Public Policy Studies
One Eagle Square, Suite 510
Concord, New Hampshire 03301-4903
phone: (603) 226-2500
fax: (603) 226-3676
ddelay@nhpolicy.org
SB2 will not do away with Town Meeting as this article suggests.
First, most towns do not have enough space in their meeting halls to accommodate 13,000 voters should all of them show up.
Second, when there is a ballot vote thanks to SB2, people who are out of state such as Iraq soldiers, can get an absentee ballot and vote.
Third, there is still a meeting in the form of a deliberative session where you can ask questions and discuss all the articles.
This also gives you time to research the ballot on your own.
When it's time to vote, it is done in private, anytime during the 7AM - 7 PM time frame.
So, SB2 is more 'fair' in that you have
- more time to study and discuss the issues
- more opportunity to vote on a particular day or by absentee ballot
- no intimidation by people who see you raise your hand at town meeting
The intimidation factor is one of the biggest reasons why voters don't attend traditional town meeting.
Here is a list of taxpayer victories as well as 6 towns who sent GSFTC packing:
http://www.nhlibertycalendar.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=679