At Clinton Event, An Emotional Conversation On Substance Use

Aug 14, 2015
Originally published on August 18, 2015 2:46 pm

New Hampshire is in the throes of a drug epidemic driven by prescription opioids and heroin.

"The state of New Hampshire loses a citizen to an overdose death about every day," said Tym Rourke, chairman of the New Hampshire Governor's Commission on Alcohol and Drug Abuse.

In New Hampshire, a recent poll about the most important problems facing the state found drug abuse ranks second. That puts it ahead of education, taxes and the state budget. And now politicians visiting the first-in-the-nation primary state are paying attention — in part because so many voters are bringing it up.

"It's just killing people all across the state, and it's unfortunate that it's taken this to happen before a broader conversation is begun in the political space," said Rourke. "Presidential candidates, if they want to do well in New Hampshire, need to answer the question of what they are going to do to help people with substance use disorders."

When Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton visited Keene, N.H., earlier this week, she wasn't there to give her stump speech. Instead she was leading a somber discussion of substance abuse. It's something Clinton said she's been hearing about since her first trip to New Hampshire as a candidate earlier this year.

"In that very first conversation, the issue of heroin and the epidemic it represented here in New Hampshire was raised with me," Clinton told the group. "I have to confess, I was surprised."

This was anything but a typical campaign event. Clinton's campaign had set up a panel of local experts to discuss the problem and possible solutions. Polly Morris, with the group Monadnock Voices for Prevention, introduced herself as someone who is in long-term recovery. Then she asked for a show of hands.

"If you have been impacted by someone you know or your own substance use, would you just raise your hand?" Morris said.

Virtually everyone in the room raised their hands.

"If you could just keep your hands up and look around," Morris said. "So this is data right in itself. We don't have to have percentages of any kind, no pie graphs, no charts. You can see that we have all had some impact."

Maybe it was a self-selecting group. But a Granite State/WMUR poll last month found 46 percent of New Hampshire residents personally know someone who has abused heroin in the past five years. Sandi Coyle is the recovery community engagement director with a group called New Futures. She's been sober for 11 years now, but told the group she used to be addicted to alcohol and heroin.

"We're not bad people trying to get good," said Coyle. "We're sick people that deserve to get well."

The forum took on something of a confessional nature.

"I myself am in long-term recovery since 1987," said Marty Boldin, who serves on the New Hampshire Governor's Commission on Alcohol and Drug Abuse.

He addressed Clinton directly, thanking her for bringing a discussion of addiction to such prominence.

"A voice like yours can make it safe for people like me and Sandi and Polly and hundreds of other people in this audience to speak out loud," said Boldin.

And speak they did. Carl Babbitt raised his hand high until Clinton called on him.

"You look at me as a regular person, but I served 11 years in prison," said Babbitt to the surprise of many in the room. "I didn't wake up one day and decide, boom, I went out and killed a man. And it was done in a fight down in Worcester. But I want to give you a little bit of my story so you know where I came from."

Babbitt said his mom kicked him out when he was 14, and he was sexually abused by a foster parent.

"I turned to drugs and alcohol to cover that pain. I tried to get into a recovery," said Babbitt. "As soon as they found out I had no insurance, bye. I went back to doing cocaine."

This was a couple of decades ago. But people are having the same difficulty today getting into treatment. Babbitt said that six months after his failed attempt at treatment, he went into a drug and alcohol-fueled blackout and wound up convicted of murder. Now he runs a prison ministry.

Clinton's campaign is working on a plan for dealing with substance abuse problems. But there's currently no timeline for releasing it.

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Terrorism, the economy, jobs, education, those are the issues you expect voters to put at the top of their priority list. But in New Hampshire, a recent poll about the most important problems facing the state found something surprising; drug abuse ranks second. Earlier this week, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton held a community forum on substance abuse. And NPR's Tamara Keith was there.

TAMARA KEITH, BYLINE: New Hampshire is in the throes of a drug epidemic driven by prescription opioids and heroin.

TIM ROURKE: The state of New Hampshire loses a citizen to an overdose death about every day.

KEITH: Tim Rourke is chair of the New Hampshire Governor's Commission on Alcohol and Drug Abuse.

ROURKE: It's just killing people all across the state. And it's unfortunate that it's taken this to happen before a broader conversation has begun in the political space. But presidential candidates, if they want to do well in New Hampshire, need to answer the question of what they're going to do to help people who are struggling with substance abuse disorders.

KEITH: When Hillary Clinton visited Keene, N.H. earlier this week, she wasn't there to give her stump speech. Instead, she was leading a somber discussion of substance abuse. It's something Clinton told the group she's been hearing about since her first trip to New Hampshire as a candidate earlier this year.

(SOUNDBITE OF SPEECH)

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON: In that very first conversation, the issue of heroin and the epidemic it represented here in New Hampshire was raised with me. I have to confess, I was surprised.

KEITH: This was anything but a typical campaign event. Clinton's campaign had set up a panel of local experts to discuss the problem and possible solutions. Polly Morris, with the group Voices for Prevention, introduced herself as someone who is in long-term recovery.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

POLLY MORRIS: If you have been impacted by someone you know or your own substance use, would you just raise your hand?

KEITH: Virtually everyone in the room raised their hands.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

MORRIS: So if you could just keep your hands up and look around - so this is data right in itself. We don't have to have percentages of any kind, no pie graphs, no charts. We can see that we've all had some impact.

KEITH: Maybe it was a self-selecting group, but a Granite State WMUR Poll last month found 46 percent of New Hampshire residents personally know someone who has abused heroin in the past five years. Sandi Coyle is the engagement director with a group called New Futures. She's been sober for 11 years now but told the group she used to be addicted to alcohol and heroin.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

SANDI COYLE: We're not bad people trying to get good. We're sick people...

(APPLAUSE)

COYLE: That deserve to get well.

(APPLAUSE)

KEITH: The forum took on something of a confessional nature.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

MARTY BOLDIN: I myself am in long-term recovery since 1987.

KEITH: Marty Boldin is on the New Hampshire's Commission on Alcohol and Drug Abuse.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

BOLDIN: Thank you for bringing up this conversation at this level because a voice like yours can make it safe for people like me and Sandi and Polly and hundreds of other people in this audience to speak out loud.

KEITH: And speak they did. Carl Babbitt raised his hand high until Clinton called on him.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

CARL BABBITT: First of all, thank you for taking the time to hear about this. You look at me as a regular person. But I served 11 years in prison. I didn't wake up one day and decide, oh, I'm going to - I went out and killed a man, OK? And it was done in a fight down in Wooster. But I want to give you a little bit of my story so you know where I came from.

KEITH: Babbitt said his mom kicked him out when he was 14. And he was sexually abused by a foster parent.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

BABBITT: I turned to drugs and alcohol to cover that pain. OK, I tried to get into a recovery at Gear Hospital (ph) in Wooster. As soon as I found out I had no insurance (snaps) bye. I went back to doing cocaine.

KEITH: This was a couple of decades ago. But people are having the same difficulty today getting into treatment. Babbitt said that six months after his failed attempt at treatment, he went into a drug and alcohol-fueled blackout and wound up convicted of murder. Now he runs a prison ministry. Clinton's campaign is currently working on a plan for dealing with substance abuse problems, but there's no timeline for releasing it. Tamara Keith, NPR News. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.